These folks better get a move on, it's bad luck to still have your Christmas decs up on May Day.

a murder of crows, a parliament of owls, a shitload of ducks

I will accept ANY money from ANY lobbying interest group. It will all cancel out and I can continue working to make the sun illegal.

why do i have to wait until i die to have a carved stone

@karlen so compulsive. I'm three videos in and following their insta

@nossidge a) This is rad, thank you.

b) Did you categorise all of these yourself?

@sean @dashie Raph Levien did research on this -- levien.com/thesis/compact.pdf -- I believe the trust metrics in Advogato were pretty resilient to fake users, as fake users only trusted other fake users, who already had low-to-zero trust.

Getting a few high trust, or large numbers of medium trust users to convey trust in you -- that's harder to automate, but obviously also possible.

me: commercial opens with your car driving through the redwoods
car exec: ok..
me: and we cut to Matthew McConaughey behind the wheel
exec: mm ok like where this is going
me: and he pulls up to the woods and gets out and starts grabbing handfuls of dirt and leaves
exec: ...
me: and rubbing dirt all over himself and moaning and putting leaves in his mouth
exec 2: wait lets hear this out

Set up this thrift store find double cassette deck and recording some tunes from the Internet archive to tape. I think this is the start of a developing a retro problem.

@vilmibm @eft Yup modern browser support is a shame, especially as it's _such a tiny protocol_ it seems to me like it would not be burden to keep support working.

Other options:

There's a new promising one here for GTK3 -- notabug.org/rain1/gopher

VF-1 is Python3 and CLI, pretty nice - -github.com/solderpunk/VF-1

You can build an old Mosaic on modern Linux: github.com/alandipert/ncsa-mos

The original curses client ships on Ubuntu in universe, too: packages.ubuntu.com/cosmic/gop

@rain Just tried our your client and I like it very much!

@vilmibm @eft Yup modern browser support is a shame, especially as it's _such a tiny protocol_ it seems to me like it would not be burden to keep support working.

Other options:

There's a new promising one here for GTK3 -- notabug.org/rain1/gopher

VF-1 is Python3 and CLI, pretty nice - -github.com/solderpunk/VF-1

You can build an old Mosaic on modern Linux: github.com/alandipert/ncsa-mos

The original curses client ships on Ubuntu in universe, too: packages.ubuntu.com/cosmic/gop

I have successfully defeated sql for the night. I am sure that tomorrow it will be back for revenge.

Hot take: gopher is not a failed attempt to invent the WWW, but its own crystallization of a coherent philosophy -- to present jump links between text files, without all the other bollocks. That makes it as valuable today as it was 25 years ago.

@m455b I only know from engineering jobs, but contributing to open source is a great way to build up portfolio of contributions you can be proud of.

That said: it's easy to burn yourself out doing unpaid work for projects who may not appreciate your work. (Also maintainers get burned out too, so your stuff might sit unreviewed for a very long time or even forever).

At least your assignment (probably) has a finish line. Open source contribution can just feel like a hole you pour time into.

Oh well. That would have been too perfect. I think I might have a newer (but still 16bit) mIRC to try out.

Pretty much the two ultimate objects of desire are:

IBM PS/2 with the amazingly nice red toggle switch, running WFWG 3.11 with an NE2000 network card.

Apple Mac SE/30 with the carry handle and an internal SCSI drive. Maybe a SCSI Zip drive hanging off the external SCSI port.

HTTP is basically totally broken with vintage browsers but Gopher still works fine. Here's @vilmibm's feels page as an example, of course.

I'm going to bring up a classic 68k MacOS emulation, next. There is something about using 90's software on 90's OSes that reminds me of how much hope and wonder I had about computers and the Internet when I was a kid.

(We didn't have a Mac, and I was on DOS long after my friends got computers which could run Windows).

Windows 3.11 feels.

Wow.

I spent the 90's raging against Microsoft and being a massive Linux and BSD zealot. I don't think I was _wrong_ or anything, but I wasn't totally prepared for the feelings bringing up a Windows 3.11 instance on the Internet was going to have.

Windows 3.11 was s pretty consistent experience. It was with Windows 95 that GUI designers really started being creative / ignoring all the HCI guidelines.

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